The public is largely skeptical and critical of Air India's safety practices, expressing significant concern over the transparency of investigations and the tendency to blame pilots for accidents without examining deeper systemic issues. Many commenters question the airline's accountability and express distrust towards preliminary reports and regulatory responses. A strong sentiment is evident for proper investigations into maintenance practices and the role of manufacturers like Boeing, with calls for justice for the deceased pilots and their families.

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Is an international conspiracy that could kill thousands of people in the name of corporate greed really low stakes?

HooseSpoose

"Oh, you've accidentally pushed this button that is impossible to push by accident?"

Sub-conspiracy, it wasn't an accident..

Pilot suicide is probably more likely than a double engine failure on takeoff.

TheBigCheese-

I wouldn’t call that a low stakes conspiracy

Justboy__

So one thing that matters is the model. Most of Boeing's most recent safety issues were on the 737 MAX which was rushed through production just a few years ago, and those issues appeared very quickly less than a year after the model was introduced, with two fatal hull losses in the first two years.

This is a 787 Dreamliner, which has been widely operating for \~15 years with few incidents and this particular aircraft was 11 years old. If there were problems, we'd expect to have seen them by now, you know?

Doesn't make it impossible that something went wrong on Boeing's side, it *was* built after the McDonnell Douglas merger, which is what people often point to as the beginning of Boeing's decline, and it is possible there was a shoddy maintenance service or degraded parts of course, but the aircraft itself predates most of Boeing's alleged safety violations, so if Boeing fucked up, they did so in a new way.

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Someone not established as the pilot because the copilot was in charge for take off asks “why did you turn off…. “ They reply “I didn’t. “
That matches perfectly with another Beoing screwup, and an Air India service failure. So what’s the conspiracy it’s an initial finding and they have not released the rest of the recordings because of the legal ramifications if they don’t have proof that will stand up in court.

pete_mjay

It isn't even low stakes. This is daylight bribery and cover up

RadlogLutar

Mostly related to vistara - air india merger. Should not be and issue.

managerhater1

All the 4 digit flight numbers are vistara. Post 12 nov all vistara flight numbers wil be operated by air India. The ai 2851 is actually Uk 851. Just remove first digit and add Uk.

VexLaLa

Impossible_Price7707

Click on the ‘info’ button left to the warning text

It is not that important. The warning is about the changes in the number of the flight.

After Vistara and AirIndia merger, they are changing the Airports Slots of Vistara with AirIndia, which is taking time due to approvals at various levels.

Matrixwala

Avoid Vistara if you can, their operations are already not to the mark!

A week ago Vistara cancelled my DEL-MAA flight. When I was rescheduling with customer care, it took me 50mins to connect to an executive and also got to know more than 6 Vistara flights from DEL and to MAA have been cancelled that day!

Supi09

It literally tells you what it says, these flights are not yet confirmed as they say as they are likely to get delayed or cancelled

shawnnathan4

Be careful. Usually when both Vistara and Air India have flights to the same city within 30 minutes…. One of these flights will get cancelled (they’ll combine the load into one plane).

_rth_

You need to get approval before buying tickets

baba_basilisk

This is the protocol. If any passenger is offloaded for any reason, bag identification needs to be done for all. There are some historical reasons as well

Prestigious-Bowler-1

AI119 seems to have departed with just a 45min delay. Impressed that they managed to do a full recheck in of Bags and maintain the departure.

itsarvind

Happened the same to me in a Mum - Del indigo flight. The flight was delayed by 2.5 hrs and an American Couple missed their connecting flight From Delhi. They were creating a scane and finally decided to deboard just before take off. 

Security guys and air plane staff then made sure each bag was identified by the owner. They apologised and said its an aviation protocol.

Jumpy_Share5869

This is common. I believe this is to ensure that the passenger intentionally don't leave anything behind. Like in our flight  a girl was crying to leave the flight after boarding. At first they denied then they allowed and the pilot said that since she decided to leave they have the remove her check in luggage which takes time since it was all kept and the crew had to account for all luggage in the cabin for security reasons. Might be because someone might manage to sneak in something dangerous and then give excuse and leave.

aswinrulez

Standard procedure. 

The idea behind is that you board with 2 bags and take only one back while leaving some dangerous / illegal item behind. 

Source - ex aviation employee.

NeedleworkerLegal573

Nope, but I’d be unsettled after that just cause it’s AI.

I’d be thinking how do we know they really checked everything. I’d be asking for bomb sniffing dogs to make their way through the plane.

Silent844

"check in" all the bags, or just "check" all the bags?

Necessary-Dance9954

This got strict implementation after the Pan am lockerbie bombing of AI 182

Valuable-Paramedic93

Sounds about right! If anyone chooses to off board a flight they need to recheck each and every single baggage wether already checked or as carry on ensure that the person who off boarded hasn’t left any baggage on board (“terrorist/bomb attacks”) I had a similar situation on a flight from Georgia to UAE but they just made us point to our carry on bags and made sure each and every carry on was identified!

Novel_Telephone_646

That's the procedure. 

Let me tell you another story. Once in Denver our flight had to do an emergency landing due to some medical reasons. The plane was grounded for some 20 minutes and 20 more minutes it had to ground.
The pilot announced if anyone wants to go out (till the boarding gate) can go and come back. 

I initiated to go out ~ had to carry my check in luggage. Also they opened and checked it before I boarded the flight again.

Original4444

Perfect-Werewolf-102

paravgah

It's not check in all the carry ons, just maybe check all carry ons. The word "in" after word "check" for aviation industry would mean remove all cabin and carry on luggage and then give them as "check in" which is really not feasible.

htcjsb

I can totally understand why you're stressed out. Just know that NO airline would EVER risk the safety of their passengers and aircrafts. There are so many procedures that we don't know about that go into protecting the plane and its passengers. Just because people are making threats, doesn't mean it will happen. In fact, Saudia was literally shot at when landing at an airport near the Sudan boarder and it was able to maneuver out of harms way and keep everyone on board safe. They've got this. Your best bet is to trust the professionals who's most important destination is home, that they will do everything in their power to make sure THEY THEMSELVES make it home, thus making sure you get home.

fatima-9329

I have a flight this weekend and I am so scared, I just started looking into options of rescheduling or cancelling. I called Air India to ask about precautions and concerns the call person couldn't even give a proper answer. He just said we have it under control and it's fine. We are still flying.
I don't know why but the whole date thing isn't sitting right with me. Something in my gut feels so wrong about this all. 
Like they'll do something before the given dates and be like surprise bitchhess. 

Idk I'm shit scared.

Blabla_yappinbitch

People who are actually carrying out a terror attack usually don't warn people beforehand, did Osama warn US of the 9/11 attacks no, I'm pretty sure it's just to cause fear and commotion coz keeping their current situation in mind, they can't do shit + as someone in the comments already said air travel is way too secure nowadays so you need not worry

Thesakuragoose

Always put a AirTag in all your bags; 
Never ever give your carry on to anyone after you board the flight; just say no it was valuables inside it. Like gold or laptop. 
They have Asked me several times to put my carryon as checked in; I have declined to them politely by saying these reasons. 
Usually I carry iPad pad mac book and other things as there are valuables to me I never let it out of my sight. 
Hope you get your bag. 
Air India Customer is useless from my past experience.

Pepper_Kalaki

Wow This is the first time I have heard carry on being checked in after boarding, specially because there is not enough space on a 777 out of all the planes. This is a very sketchy situation because technically speaking your bag has no data as it is carry on. It’s hard to say if it would be found because the biggest indicator to lost baggage is the tag. 

Legal action would just not work for lost baggage, but I would say your best bet is to post it on twt and ask for either the baggage or compensation for the lost baggage and its contents.

AshMain_Beach

Yes, they are liable to pay you for baggage loss. Try complaining with DGCA, and write a Tweet tagging AI, DGCA etc.

https://www.dgca.gov.in/digigov-portal/?page=jsp/dgca/InventoryList/headerblock/knowYour/index_files/KYR_portal.html#:~:text=In%20case%20of%20loss%2C%20damage%20or%20delayed%20baggage%2C%20you%20are,written%20claim%20to%20the%20airline.

Tendieman007

Try complaining on the airsewa portal 

[Airsewa Portal](https://airsewa.gov.in/)

They respond quickly and ensure proper communication to you regarding your complaint!

JustaFUCKUP69

The challenge here is that crew took the bag without giving a baggage tag usually when they convert a baggage from hand bag to check in they put a baggage tag and give you a slip, that's the proof that your baggage has indeed been accepted as checked in bag, in this scenario  without that it will be you vs them scenario with no success in sight

SignalConversation18

You need to first report it to the airport. Take help of air india support staff to file property irregularity report at the airport,keep a copy, also your luggage tag or boarding pass, also post it on the air seva website. If you do not find it within 21 days, file for lost baggage with air india support.  You will get monetary value based on your ticket class and added declarations. Even if you get your luggage ,you can claim compensation for delayed luggage. Generally it can be found at the source or destination airport.

Also if you face any such issues in future, just use [hava havai](https://havahavai.page.link/cD4N) app, that helps you with all these questions.

AfraidReference8838

SuddenCompetition997

Here's what you need to do - sue air India in SF small claims court for 10k

And I have sued there 4 times, so I know in and outs of it. DM me if you need help with the process. 

Your case is admissible in small claims court because an airline can be sued anywhere it has operations and you must have booked the flight in SF (or you can claim to have done so).

Alternative-Ad4581

Along with everything else, add a charge of theft against the  crew and the airline

newly_single_af

You should’ve received a baggage tag regardless that’s on you for not asking for baggage tags and double checking. Regardless, since you have a picture you could try and contact the airline but I’d be surprised if they are able to track it!

Lundroid

Lawyer in India. Yes, you can file a consumer case. Please DM for assistance

Brown-Rang-Guy

Follow [this](https://www.airindia.com/in/en/travel-information/baggage-guidelines/lost-damaged-baggage.html)

FingerBackground5731

Air India misplaced and lost my bag during a flight. Now, they’re asking me, a foreign national, to get an Indian visa to visit some warehouse and attempt to retrieve it. I’d greatly appreciate any help getting them to cooperate and take responsibility.

Update: [https://x.com/ayeshahmed\_/status/1860179394037448720](https://x.com/ayeshahmed_/status/1860179394037448720)

Incident Details: [https://x.com/ayeshahmed\_/status/1859583287699943462](https://x.com/ayeshahmed_/status/1859583287699943462)

Different_Explorer56

You're Bangladeshi and Muslim, you can't buddy.

/s

UN0MEitsCJ

**Update: My Bag Was Finally Returned After 2.5 Months!**

Huge thanks to Advocate u/Brown-Rang-Guy and his team for making this happen! After Air India confirmed my bag was sitting in their Delhi airport warehouse, they stopped responding and refused to arrange its return. Social media alone wasn’t enough to get them to act, but after u/Brown-Rang-Guy sent a legal notice, they finally returned my bag—worth around $1,000—after 2.5 months. I’m incredibly grateful to you for your support throughout the process!

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